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Comment 8 of 38, added on October 31st, 2005 at 3:44 PM.
This poem is about the loss of faith and traditional values, and the realization that, for Larkin, there is nothing to replace it. He imagines how happy young people must feel not to be accountable to any moral authority. But the alternative is emptiness.
P. Corwin from United States
Comment 7 of 38, added on October 6th, 2005 at 12:47 PM.
Surely the high windows that Larkin writes of are representative of a place after death that humans are unable to reach, a paradise that humans cannot and will never reach because they are uncapable of living without sin and resisiting temptation. The almost surreal language in the last two lines of the last stanza poses the question that if humans are unable to reach this paradise (or whatever it may be), can such a place really exist? As how can this place truly exist if noone has been there and noone will?
Tom from United Kingdom
Comment 6 of 38, added on April 17th, 2005 at 11:30 AM.
The use of "High Windows" in the title could be Larkin exploring the idea of death and that "the deep blue air" that shows "nothing" and is "endless" is heaven linking in with the church ideas below
fes from United Kingdom
Comment 5 of 38, added on March 28th, 2005 at 10:02 AM.
what is this poem abt? similar to common larkin themes, i think this is centred around larkin's struggle with faith as he continues to seek for an answer but never able to find something satisfactory.
it is weird for the narrator to view 'paradise' as something as described. shouldn't paradise be a perfect place as what most people believed? a coarse word is used here as well, perhaps mocking at the common perception of paradise that it is something so 'holy', 'saintly' and perfect. pills and birth control methods, all these are supposedly contrary to the catholic beliefs. yet, he views this as paradise. what does he exactly think paradise is? Is paradise a true portrayal of human nature rather than a conjured perfection to console oneself?
moving on, 'everyone young going down the long slide
To happiness,'. what is this long slide to happiness? young here perhaps does not refer to people young of age, but rather people who are new to the faith. these young believers, charged with hope and excitement, are in fact all 'going down' in search for 'happiness'. instead of finding true happiness as the faith promises, the narrator felt that it is a blatant lie. he probably even felt that it is a degradation of one's mind to commit oneself to faith.
the narrator looks back at himself where he was one of those young souls seeking God and rather cynically conclude that all would 'go down the slide' like 'free bloody birds'. the use of strong language here again suggests a mocking tone, indicating that they are not really being set free, but only a deception.
'Rather than words', perhaps rather than reading the Bible to search for answers, the narrator chose to think of 'high windows'. i could not figure out the significance of the 'high windows'. could it refer to an avenue where he can eventually find a release? this avenue to him still 'shows
Nothing, and is nowhere, and is endless.' The narrator ended up, feeling lost and unable to receive any sense of direction.
It seems that the more the narrator seek to find the Truth, the more disillusioned he gets. Perhaps that sums up Larkin's mood in his various attempts to find an answer.
cata from Singapore
Comment 4 of 38, added on March 22nd, 2005 at 3:59 PM.
Foehn is right. But so is Ed, and so is mc ryle. Poetry is about communication and contemplation. Everyone must take their own personal views away from a poem in order for it to succeed. The only way for a poem to truly fail is for it to not inspire any thoughts, whatever they may be.
That being said, poetry can still be misunderstood. Often, it is misunderstood. In this particular poem, foehn is probably more in line with the author's thoughts. There is a definite change in tone in the last stanza that does give the poem a sense of hope, albeit, a weak one. The high windows do resemble church windows and I believe that Larkin is actually qouted as saying church windows are the windows he was refering to.
As for the infinite blue space, this must be compared to the uncertainity prevalent in several of Larkin's poems concerning religion, Church Going for one. In Larkin's poems, religion and God are often depicted as ungraspable senses of companionship that sometimes actually make him more lonely than before contemplating them. But this does not mean the NARRATORS in his poems are atheist. In fact, a better way to look at it, is to realize the contemplation of religion in itself is hope, beleif. Larkin's poems usually include a disdainful tone toward the lack of truth and lack of care in the world. But in his "better" poems, there is usually an altuistic want to supercede the percieved worldly quagmire in search of true companionship. Most of the time the poem searches for this in religion. The catch is that religion is not tangible to the narrator and is often hard to find, leaving the narrator meekly hoping but largely uncertain.
Basically, High Windows, and several of Larkin's other poems, attack the same doubts that most believers in religion face: "How do I know that in a world where so many other things are involved that my beliefs are supremely correct?" This poem is doubting definitly, but most people doubt at some point. To declare this poem as simple cynicism is a great injustice to teh author and the poem's depth.
David from United States
Comment 3 of 38, added on March 1st, 2005 at 12:54 PM.
he is psycho-y cant he write a coherant sentence! wot a fool!
mc ryle from United Kingdom
Comment 2 of 38, added on January 22nd, 2005 at 12:25 AM.
Part of what makes this a poem is the inadequacy of prose to convey it. There are nuances in almost every word.
What are the "high windows" really about? Where would such windows usually be seen? Why does the poem have that title? Why does the first stanza erupt with such coarse language? What is the long slide? What is paradise, again?
I think, before declaring the author in this instance to be cynical, some of these questions need to be answered.
I think the poem to have a more dazed and thoughtful tone, than one of cynicism. The young couple, surmised to be in an ongoing sexual relationship, is little more than a distraction to the narrator (not necessarily the poet!).
There is a tension that buds and begins to bloom, having alluded to birth control, with the line, "Bonds and gestures pushed to one side..." It begins to be clear, here, that the order of things has changed. This is what "old" refers to... not that the narrator is old and regrets it; only that so much else seems to be alarmingly new. Sex, in the narrator's prime of life, led to child-rearing. Faith and sexual mores were part of that life. To the narrator's present perception, this has ceased to be so.
I don't know if the "long slide" is a reference to anything in particular or not. But the phrase is used twice: once as "down the long slide to happiness" and again as "down the long slide like free bloody birds." "Happiness," however, is for the young. The priest "and his lot" inherit the simile, "like free bloody birds."
The disturbing juxtaposition of tonalities indicates a complete breakdown in the narrator's system of beliefs and faith. This is made more poignant and explicit by the reference to priests, and, ultimately, high windows. For there are few other places that one will see high windows, than in a church.
There may be an implicit assumption of knowledge wherein the narrator takes as common knowledge the practice of "looking up" to find God. But here, the high windows show only the "deep blue sky" (a bit of a cliché on Larkin's part, I'm afraid), which shows... nothing... nowhere... and is "endless"...
But, before judging that the narrator (again, not necessarily the poet!) is atheist, or has lost faith, or is in some antithetical stance as concerns God, it is necessary to look at the words used. "Nothing" -- no form. "Nowhere" -- cannot be pinned down in location and defined. "Endless" -- eternal.
It is not words that come to the narrator's mind, when he considers the "long slide like free bloody birds" of the priests. It is the high windows. It is the "sun-comprehending glass," which may, in its mute way, be said to "comprehend" something which is utterly incomprehensible to it, for the simple reason that it lets the light pass through.
I can sometimes too easily read more into a poem than is there, but it could be that there is a note of hope, at the end of this. In recognizing more completely that an old order of things has passed away, room is made in the narrator's mind for a more contemporary, more accurate conceptualization of God.
Be that the case or no, this is a poem about change, and faith.
foehn
Comment 1 of 38, added on December 1st, 2004 at 2:08 AM.
Here, Larkin cynically shows an older narrator looking at the youth of the present and suspecting that other older people envy them. He wonders if this is something older people did when they saw him as a youth. In the end, he thinks of windows high above, beyond which is nothing, which symbolizes the hopelessness of going through a life constantly looking ahead or to the past and thinking something more must be there.
Ed from United States
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This poem is about the loss of faith and traditional values, and the realization that, for Larkin, there is nothing to replace it. He imagines how happy young people must feel not to be accountable to any moral authority. But the alternative is emptiness.
P. Corwin from United States